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Bryant Again · Aug 15, 2007, 04:20 AM // 04:20

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Originally Posted by Tahlia Tane

It's worldwide? I'll be damned...

It sucks. I mean where's the competitiveness in this? You don't fight for favor, you grind for it. That's stupid. And now the Gods gaze, instead of on a certain piece of land, on they entire world? That's stupid!

Change it back!!

/signed damnit, /signed!!

You say it's stupid now? I thought it was [email protected] ridiculous to see the Gods favor Europe, America and Korea when they don't even exist in the game

Unidimention · Aug 15, 2007, 05:05 AM // 05:05

/sign

like last system better

higaru · Aug 15, 2007, 06:14 AM // 06:14

i'm on the europeen server, but i feel sorry for other players who do not have the favor most of the time, that way it is based on personal achievement:

/not signed

Tark Alkerk · Aug 15, 2007, 06:41 AM // 06:41

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Originally Posted by ScorpDeception63

/Signed

Why? Because I think this will demote Hero's Ascent. Could this problem have not been solved an easier and more effective way? The only reason people have to go to Hero's Ascent now is to get higher ranked, not fight for their country in PvP and win favor so they could go to the FoW and UW. While I do say that it wasn't fair to other countries, like I said earlier, it could have been solved a better way. To me, It's almost like this new method is pushing people into getting maxed titles.

note PvP is not a grind, (well it tries not be) the reason why people go to halls is because they like winning k?

freekedoutfish · Aug 15, 2007, 09:33 AM // 09:33

For someone to complain about this was as predictable as the sun rising in the morning. Surprise, surprise that someone Anet changed (for the better) is getting complained about within a few days.

You want the favor system returned back to being PvP orientated?

Back to a sytem that everyone had been complaining about since the start the game virtually?

The older system was completely unfair because it meant America never had a chance of winning favor due to the lack of American players compared to every other district in PvP.

The older system also meant that only one region could have favor at one time, which was also unfair to regions with less players.

The system now may not be perfect, but its alot more fair on all players throughout all regions. And its controlled by PvE actions and NOT PvP which is the main improvement.

Favor is now won by the actions of players in PvE and their achievements in PvE and thats how it should be.

The new system has also only existed for a few days, so give it a chance to settle down. People need to learn to push themselves to max titles now, instead of relying on PvP to achieve the favor. People need to learn to get off their asses and actually achieve the favor themselves instead of waiting for PvP players to do it for them.

If you want to keep favor and get access to FOW and UW, then push and incourage other players to max some titles.

The new system is cool, because when I maxed two titles last night I had about 3 people randomly wisp me congratulating me for doing it.

Plus I dont see how it doesnt work...

...you see about 3 or 4 people max titles every 10 minutes, so achieving the required number isnt going to be hard to gain favor.

You people are never happy with anything changing or improving. Atleast give it a few weeks before you start criticising things. Take the party search for example. That didnt work at all for months and then they forced you're text to be added and now it works almost perfectly.

Give things a chance before you start complaining.

Hott Bill · Aug 15, 2007, 10:11 AM // 10:11

Before: 11:04 Pm. "America has taken the favor away from Europe!"
After: 6:30 Am - 3 Am: 1-- Minutes of favor remaining.

Before: Every single day of every single week. "Taiwan does not have favor of the gods."

After: 10:00 Am - 9:30 Pm "5-,7-, Minutes of favor remaining."

Europe (being the favor hog it is) has to accept the fact that favor is now distributed evenly. AND Uw/FoW are in the Pve catagory, which means people that play pve more have a chance to earn their country favor. There is no need for a petition because you obviously hate Taiwan or the lesser countries.

/threw the petition away

Alicendre · Aug 15, 2007, 11:58 AM // 11:58

Actually it's pretty amusing to see things like this from Americans who didn't stop saying that Europeans were noobs because they never had the favor. Then Europeans took it and Americans whined to have the favor back.

I'm European myself and I agree, it's a good thing that everyone has the favor, and that PvErs get it now. (because really the PvP titles are a pain to get)
The stupid thing is that now it's about Titles. What, is Balthazar the god of sweeties and Grenth the god of "Hooray I spent all my money in stupid games !" ?
A DoA system would be much better (without the difficulty), plus let's see what you get when you finish the games : (apart from hard mode)
-Factions : everyone thanking you, a free weapon and new armors. (3 or 1 depending of your class)
-Nightfall : everyone thanking you, a free weapon, a new armor and the ability to go in the hardest but most lucrative area in the game.
-Prophecies : new quests that nobody does anymore and you can't hench ! Hooray !

Really when you already finished Prophecies you just need to get to Droknar, maybe infuse your armor.

Kityn · Aug 15, 2007, 12:56 PM // 12:56

Definately /not signed.

Effendi Westland · Aug 15, 2007, 01:20 PM // 13:20

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Dean

/notsigned

The ENTIRE WORLD gets favor every time favor is granted. There is now no benefit to being in any certain region with regard to favor. This change is definitely a step in the right direction. It takes control of PVE zones AWAY from PVP'ers, and it provides access to UW/FOW for mixed region parties in the international districts, which was previously not possible.

JD

I failed at being sarcastic and this is now the second time in this thread that I have to say that.

Sophitia Leafblade · Aug 15, 2007, 01:34 PM // 13:34

I couldnt Careless about the favor system back then, i couldnt careless now. Theres scrolls and such like now to get down there you dont really need favor.

Although im not to bothered with favor the simplest way would be for Anet to simply remove it and give everyone access to Uw and Fow.

Alicendre · Aug 15, 2007, 02:37 PM // 14:37

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Originally Posted by Sophitia Leafblade

Although im not to bothered with favor the simplest way would be for Anet to simply remove it and give everyone access to Uw and Fow.

Seconded.
We would just need to finish the Ascend, plus it's much more logical, rp-wise : what is the Ascend, basically ? Having the gods looking at you.

I know that Nahpui and Nf's quests aren't really like that, but at least it's less pathetic than a god rewarding some guy that didn't stopped dying (LdoA) or being drunk so long he would die of ethyl coma -_-

haggus71 · Aug 15, 2007, 03:35 PM // 15:35

/notsigned

The only thing I could think of changing is eliminating certain max titles as gaining favor. Sweet Tooth? the AFK-on-Festival-Weekend........err.......Lucky Title? If they did that, that might bring down the 24/7 favor we have now.

As said ad-infinitum in this thread, FoW/UW is PVE. It is now attached to PVE. Until they can come up with a better way to connect it to pve, this is the best option. Besides, at least there are different names than Getting High With (KOSS), and In Russia Alter Caps (YOU), on the screen for favor!

Martin Firestorm · Aug 15, 2007, 03:55 PM // 15:55

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Originally Posted by Sophitia Leafblade

Although im not to bothered with favor the simplest way would be for Anet to simply remove it and give everyone access to Uw and Fow.

I am bothered by the favor concept. It was a really awkward way of trying to tie pvp and pve together which obviously failed totally. Just dump it anet. Let us pay our 1000 gold or use our scrolls--that should be enough.

dawnmist · Aug 16, 2007, 12:55 AM // 00:55

/notsigned

This also gives the option for groups from multiple territories to gather in the International districts and explore together - something that was *never* possible previously.

I admit I was worried about the need for 20 players to max a title - until I watched over the weekend and found that Favour was active more often than not.

Particularly since I'm now in the position that my connection to the European servers has just broken (bad packet loss along the route) and it looks like my only solution will be to move to the US servers (ISP says contact GW, ArenaNet says change Territory) - being able to meet up with Guild Members in the International districts for elite access is *very* nice (I wouldn't even consider the change in Territory without these changes).

I think having universal access when Favour is active is brilliant.

Envious · Aug 16, 2007, 02:14 AM // 02:14

/notsigned....

Thunder79 · Aug 16, 2007, 02:16 AM // 02:16

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Originally Posted by Martin Firestorm

I am bothered by the favor concept. It was a really awkward way of trying to tie pvp and pve together which obviously failed totally. Just dump it anet. Let us pay our 1000 gold or use our scrolls--that should be enough.

yeah honestly....this is what they should do....I mean...I've been vanquishing Tyria almost constantly for the past 2 days...and the lowest the time remaining on favor got when I did the /favor command was 34 minutes....right now it sits at 328 minutes. Having favor is the standard now...might as well get rid of it. It was a way to tie pve and pvp together which people hated...there's really no reason to keep it now.

Get rid of it or make it tied to individual achievements...meaning you have to earn your own favor with the gods. I would be happy with either of those.

Nights Death Dealer · Aug 16, 2007, 02:26 AM // 02:26

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Originally Posted by Thunder79

yeah honestly....this is what they should do....I mean...I've been vanquishing Tyria almost constantly for the past 2 days...and the lowest the time remaining on favor got when I did the /favor command was 34 minutes....right now it sits at 328 minutes. Having favor is the standard now...might as well get rid of it. It was a way to tie pve and pvp together which people hated...there's really no reason to keep it now.

Get rid of it or make it tied to individual achievements...meaning you have to earn your own favor with the gods. I would be happy with either of those.

and then the casual gamers who only have an hour or 2 a day to spare have no chance of grinding achievement then rushing to fow to use their time....lol......just remove favor...it is already permanantly up with number of achievements.

Hephaestus Ram · Aug 16, 2007, 02:41 AM // 02:41

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Originally Posted by Nights Death Dealer

and then the casual gamers who only have an hour or 2 a day to spare have no chance of grinding achievement then rushing to fow to use their time....lol......just remove favor...it is already permanantly up with number of achievements.

People that only have two hours to play have no business
in fissure anyway. But if they want to go anyway they can
use scrolls to get there at will just like everyone else that
wants to go without favor.

SharonC · Aug 16, 2007, 04:38 AM // 04:38

/not signed

I am a casual player who exclusively does PvE. For me, this system makes more sense than the old one did because at least it is PvE players affecting the PvE world.

I occasionally go Underworld or to Fissure of Woe, not for the drops, but for fun. I actually enjoy doing the quests, seeing the very different scenery, capping myself an underworld spider

etc. The new system, at least for now, allows those of us who are casual players to not have to have someone paying close attention to the messages about favor in hopes that we can grab it long enough for everyone to finish what they were doing to get a group together and go UW or FoW. It actually allows us to schedule a guild outing to go in, do some quests, and maybe get a decent drop or two. We do keep a scroll for backup just in case we need one, but the new system means that the prime playing time is most likely to have favor as that will be when people are maxing titles.

I am maxing a few titles for various reasons. I am maxing Sunspear and Lightbringer on some characters because I like the Sunspear skills, and the Lightbringer damage increase/reduction is really helpful for my melee characters. I am actually going to get at least level 1 Kurzick so I can get some of the Kurzick skills that look useful. If they prove useful enough, I will max it.

As to the others? Well, I have Protector of Tyria on one character, and my sister would like to get all three protector titles for hers so I am working on helping her with that. We both enjoy vanquishing, so will most likely eventually end up with those titles. Not because they are something to strive for, but because we enjoy the challenge.

For us, the almost constant access to those elite areas is a nice bonus which will allow us to enjoy those areas more. Eventually, we would like to do every quest in both FoW and UW, or at least to try. The new system gives us that chance.

I may have gotten off topic a bit, but I hope that those of you complaining about the change can see why some of us very casual players like the system. It makes our lives a tad easier, and allows us to enjoy the game a bit more.

Shadis · Aug 16, 2007, 04:55 AM // 04:55

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Originally Posted by Alicendre

Actually it's pretty amusing to see things like this from Americans who didn't stop saying that Europeans were noobs because they never had the favor. Then Europeans took it and Americans whined to have the favor back.

Was that truly necessary? I can recall epic European whining about the Favor system when they rarely had it. It goes both ways.

The Favor system now is fine. Everyone works together to get it and keep it. A PvE Reward for PvE Accomplishments. Honestly, most people in HA didn't give a damn about Favor anyway, and last I checked, they are still playing it.